Another suggestion for Haitian refugees—Guantanamo Bay

This is an article from mid-week, so it’s a little old, but apparently under consideration for housing Haitians is Guantanamo Bay’s Camp Justice.  I just wonder how out of the  thousands displaced, someone (who?) is going to decide who gets to come to any US facility?   Yesterday we heard that thousands are expected in Florida, here.

Haitians left homeless or without food and water by Tuesday’s major earthquake may be sent to live temporarily at Guantanamo Bay, according to two Defense Department officials.

Military planners are considering housing Haitian refugees at the Naval base in Cuba, the officials told FOX News.

“We are certainly keeping that option open,” one official said. “Of course no final determinations have been made as the military is still in its ‘assessment’ mode.”

Guantanamo Bay has a long history of housing refugees from the Caribbean, particularly Haitian refugees.

In 1991, after a military coup ignited a violent power struggle in Haiti, more than 30,000 Haitian refugees passed through Guantanamo Bay, according to GlobalSecurity.org.

If refugees from Tuesday’s earthquake are brought to Guantanamo Bay, they would likely be housed at Camp Justice, where reporters and other visitors have stayed when covering the military trials of terror suspects.

Camp Justice is about a half-hour drive, across the base and over densely forested hills, from where terror suspects are currently being held at Guantanamo Bay.

Asked at an afternoon press briefing whether Guantanamo Bay is under consideration to house Haitian refugees or detain Haitian criminals, a top military official told reporters the naval base is a possibility.

The Haitians are coming! Catholics will bring the kids

Update January 19th: This is one of our earliest posts on the Haitian refugee issue, see our whole new category here with many more recent posts.

Last night I reported that tens of thousands of Haitians illegally in the US have won the lottery—with the earthquake wrecking havoc on Haiti, they have been granted Temporary Protected Status meaning they will stay here indefinitely.

Now comes news that we are going to bring thousands of Haitian refugees to Florida!

From The Orlando Sentinel:

American Red Cross officials Thursday said more than 4,000 Haitian refugees could be coming to Central Florida soon.

The WFTV.com report shows the organization plans to bring the Haitian refugees, as well as more than 45,000 U.S. nationals living in Haiti, to Jacksonville and then divide them among other Florida cities, including Tampa, Miami and Orlando.

Earlier today I heard a discussion on the Laura Ingraham show about lifting the lid on the refugee issue.  Laura was interviewing a former (I believe former) ambassador to Haiti who said if the Obama Administration gives the slightest sign of agreeing to take more Haitian refugees, he predicted “millions” would jump into the sea in an effort to get here.

Governor Crist, not closing the door on the idea of taking in Haitian refugees, said it depends on the feds.  I think that means he wants to know how much money the federal taxpayer will put in the kitty to care for the impoverished refugees.

… Gov. Charlie Crist added that any plan to shelter Haitian refugees and U.S. nationals living in Haiti in several locations throughout Florida will depend upon the federal government.

Meanwhile Catholic Charities says it will bring “orphaned” children.  Does that mean they will do this with private charity or with a per-head payment from the US State Department just as they do with their normal refugees?

Catholic Charities and other South Florida immigrant rights organizations also are planning an ambitious effort to airlift thousands of Haitian children left orphaned in the aftermath of Tuesday’s horrific earthquake — a move mirroring Operation Pedro Pan in the 1960s.

“We will use the model we used 40 years ago with Pedro Pan to bring these orphans to the United States to give them a lifeline, a bright and hopeful future,” Catholic Charities Legal Services executive director Randolph McGrorty said Thursday at a news conference in the offices of Rep. Mario Diaz-Balrart.

With all the chaos, isn’t anyone worried that they will scoop up children who do still have living relatives but might have only become separated during the turmoil?  Wouldn’t it make more sense for Catholic Charities to establish some decent orphanages in Haiti for a year or so and try to find families of the supposed “orphaned” children.

There is more:

Warning of a Haitian exodus, here.

Guest column: A UK reader on the “refugee industry,” real refugees, RRW and more

Editor:  We have previously heard from Madeleine, here, on November 27th regarding the Karen refugees from Burma and their need for proper interpreters.

We may have had a guest column or two in the past, but know that readers are welcome to send us opinions (in a longer format than a normal comment).  You can even tell us where we are wrong as long as you don’t name-call—you know start with the racists, bigots and hatemongers garbage.  Send your submissions in the body of an e-mail or as a pdf file to Ann@vigilantfreedom.com.   I don’t have a lot of time to edit so try to have at least checked your spelling.  You can use a pen name if you wish.  And, remember if you write a book length article it will likely not be as widely read as a shorter opinion piece. 

Here is Madeleine:

I fully accept that there is a ‘refugee industry’ as termed and defined by you at the Refugee Resettlement Watch. I accept that many of the U.S.A.’s federal refugee contractors with its hundreds upon hundreds of sub contractors are rolling in money but can only supply cockroach infested slums to the refugees. Something is very wrong with the mathematics here. How much does it cost to clean and disinfect a house or flat including the drains and lavatory? If this is not done, new incoming refugee tenants could be blamed for infestation that was actually caused by the previous vacating refugees or other citizens. Infestation does not occur overnight as I am sure you know (I do not think I should be teaching my grandmother to suck eggs – as Americans quaintly say. Neither do I want to be offensive to the Americans and would add that the same slovenliness happened in the U. K. by our authorities). I fully accept that there is exploitation of the refugees, not only by the people in the Refugee Industry who are well paid to look after refugees or by unscrupulous indigenous Americans but also by refugees upon other refugees which starts at source, in the refugee camps, those  awaiting departure to re-settlement countries.
In fact I can also add and support your statements on the refugee industry by pointing out that if one really wants to get the cash in the big business of charity one should start at source, as an N.G.O. in the country where the refugees are being re-settled. In Thailand, an N.G.O. can earn around $1,000 a day.  The following small extract from ’The Economist (U.S.)’ elucidates:

 “Once little more than ragged charities, non-governmental organisations (NGOs) are now big business. Somalia, where that exchange took place, (see full article) is heaven for them. In large parts of the country, western governments, the United Nations and foreign aid agencies cannot work directly; it is too dangerous. …outsiders must work through local groups, which become a powerful source of patronage. “Anybody who’s anybody is an NGO these days,” sighs one UN official”.

(Extracted from “Sins of the secular missionaries (there are tens of thousands of non-governmental organizations in the world, many dispensing assistance, others serving special interests and even governments)”. By ‘The Economist (U.S.)’, January 29, 2000. This article accurately expresses my experiences with N.G.O.s and I do recommend you read this article in conjunction with my comment.  It is a breath-taking piece of work.  [Editor: here is a link for I believe a shortened version of that Economist article]

At source, there is even a greater problem than that of equitable distribution of money for the refugees and that is security, national security for the citizens of America, the U.K. and the refugees themselves.   Categorically I state that there are people who are entering the U.S.A. and the U.K. who are not true refugees as defined by U.N.  Their intent for becoming a refugee can range from spying on America (or the U.K.) or on the fleeing true refugees by the regime that they are trying to escape; to destabilization of the host country, criminal activities and the usual ‘economic’ refugees.  Clues as to who is or is not a true refugee can be perceived by the destitution of the person arriving from the refugee camp.  In most cases a true refugee has zilch and what they have is likely to be mementoes of loved ones grabbed in those desperate moments of flight; not signed birth, school, college and marriage certificates, or even passports.  Other clues can be found in the speed a refugee has taken to be placed in the higher socio-economic echelons, ergo, has their been some sort of preparation or prior planning? Surely, a true refugee is more likely to be unskilled and can only hope for factory work in the host country for some years whilst proceeding with an education.  Another clue is the language.  If I take for example the Burma/Thai border, true refugees have been there for 25 years or more.  They eke out a living with little more than their own survival skills and knowledge of farming and have no money.  It is very telling on the N.G.O.’s as described above, and host governments that they cannot speak English.  Money has been sent from many sources for education and the teaching of English, so why is it that very large amounts of true refugees do not get this teaching.  Where is the money going?

Bribery is another answer along with those provided by ‘The Economist’ (as above).  Bribery is everywhere, in Burma, in Thailand, in the various N.G.O.s, in the refugee camps and amongst the refugees by other refugees. The U.K. has long been known as a ‘soft touch’ by economic refugees but a new tag has arisen in Thailand for Americans which is ’weak’ or ’easy’. This tag comes from what is deemed and the best way I can of explaining it, ‘putting one over the Americans’.  With bribery, the identity of another ethnic group can be brought – in this case someone had gotten hold of a Karen’s.  This ’Karen’ was seen entering a mosque and eventually was re-settled in America.  That the American interviewer and other staff did not know that there are no Muslims within the Karen (except by marriage) has given rise to a prevailing feeling that ‘you can do anything in America’ meaning ‘you can try anything on America’.  The Karen who saw this did report it to an N.G.O. and when I eventually heard about this and more incidents, I wrote to my M.P. One ruse was to assume the identity of a minister of the Christian religion because one could be easily lost in the crowd of many Christians serving there.

Another factor that allows bribery and ruses to flourish along with this terrible and brutal war being waged by the Burmese Military Junta to annihilate the Karen is the lack of media coverage.  I rarely see any news bulletins on the BBC, other TV stations here, Radio or newspapers about the daily carnage of death, murder and torture going on in Burma. That the British do not know who were their Allies in the 2nd World War is immediately cottoned onto by the arriving false and economic refugees from the other ethnic groups, who inform their buddies back home or in the refugee camps which gives rise to more bribery and more ruses and the continuation of this terrible war with more killing, rape, murder and torture of the Karens.

I have been viewing some American T.V. stations and I find an absence of any reporting on Burma as well. Recently I emailed Miss Ann Rodgers of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette regarding her article:

  ‘Refugees protest Catholic Charities centre – Ethnic Karens demand translator,’ Dated: Wednesday, November 25, 2009.

I was dismayed that pertinent information regarding the Karen was not published nor was any interest shown in the supporting evidence from ‘DEKHO!’ The Journal of the Burma Star Association (U.K.).  It is at this point that I took a greater interest in the  Refugee Resettlement Watch web site (www.refugeeresettlementwatch.org).

Had there been more interest and knowledge about the refugees and the Karen, Bishop Zubik would never have shown his appalling ignorance when he said:  ‘”But they didn’t speak English.”
His lack of knowledge showed little genuine caring for the Karen.

However, although seemingly anti-refugee, the Refugee Resettlement Watch did post my comment on the Karen and accepted the supporting evidence (‘Burmese Karen must have Karen Language Interpreters’, November 27, 2009).  This episode substantiates many of the criticisms elucidated therein on the ‘Refugee Industry‘. It is not to say that I agree with all that is written on Refugee Resettlement Watch (RRW) but I do agree that we cannot re-settle all refugees and that there may be other ways and options to consider.

Anyone with a cursory interest in Burma knows that the Burman has an arsenal of racist terminology and attitudes towards the Karen and that there is nothing unusual about the Burman saying that the Karen are ‘lazy’, ‘dirty’ and ‘stupid’, it is everyday language. I have no wish to repeat some of the more hideous racist language here. If Bishop Zubik had any understanding at all of the Burmese refugees he would have appointed Karen Interpreters/Translators from the very beginning.  This should be true of every situation in America and around the world including the Three Rivers Coalition for Justice. No other race, or member of another race has the right to speak on behalf of the Karen race.  They are presently fleeing persecution because of their race and religion and they have a right in a free world to speak for themselves, through a Karen/English Interpreter/Translator if necessary.

I am aware that it is very much of the American culture to speak English.  Therefore, I would like to explain some more about the Karen and languages to invoke their understanding.  The main reason why many Karen do not speak English is that they are true refugees. They are fleeing torture, death and annihilation at the hands of the Burmese Military Junta.  The villages where their schools are have been burnt to the ground, their teachers and other villagers have been killed, murdered, tortured, raped, used for slave labour or they have escaped to the refugee camps in Thailand.  I have previously explained conditions within these refugee camps and asked where the money sent for learning English has gone; many Karens have been in those camps for over 25 years with no education. The Karen language itself is what we Europeans term as picture languages, so imagine how much harder it is for us to learn Chinese as opposed to French or Spanish. The Karen language has two main dialects, Sgaw and P’o. Within these dialects are further dialects. Previously the Karen were multi-lingual speaking another Karen dialect, Burmese and English. Many more Karen were able to Interpret/Translate Burmese than Burmese could understand Karen.  As the Karen have had little or no education for the last 25 years, it is considered by experts that the Karen would need 1,000 hours of being taught English to bring them back to fluency.

The Karen, were Our Allies of the 2nd  and 1st World Wars. Britain  should never ever have left them to become refugees, let alone face ethnic cleansing. Neither should they have suppressed the information that they were our Allies.  One of the reasons for their annihilation by the Burmese Military Junta is because they fought for us. The Karen did not stop to count the money in their pockets when they volunteered to help save the lives of American Soldiers, nor did they calculate their tax return or ponder their consciences as to whether it was a true act of charity. Most certainly, Bishop Zubik should never have treated the Karen the way he did.  It is our duty before God and Man to help the Karen. I do not think they should be called refugees, they belong in a different category, perhaps called ‘Duty’, ‘Allies’, ’Loyalty’ ’Special’, ’Friends’, or even ‘Debt’.  I have great faith in the generous hearts of the American people that this wrong will be put to right.

Readers may reach Madeleine Blu, Bwetee Pe Lulu Team at madeleineblu@aol.com

South Korea is considering US model for its refugee program?

That’s what this sounds like, but did no one tell them this self-sufficiency bit isn’t working these days?   And, it sounds like jobs are pretty scarce in South Korea too!

Lee Ki Young, a professor of social work at Pusan University, explained, “After allowing the admission and resettlement of refugees, the U.S. focuses on their employment and economic success, and the Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) under the federal government has organized a taskforce for promoting the economic independence of refugees. In South Korea, self-support and independence are proposed as the items of utmost priority.”

But he pointed out, “In South Korea, where even low-level employment isn’t guaranteed for the refugees, whether or not to pursue an early stage policy for promoting independence such as in the U.S. should be carefully considered. In particular, many North Korean breakaway citizens have debts after using brokers before entering South Korea, so their actual economic situation is quite precarious and they have a high desire for an income to bring in additional family members, but it is difficult to find ideal results from work.”

Update on UN camp for ‘Bhutanese’ in Nepal, security village established

We haven’t had any news on this in a long time, so here is a quick update.  It seems that the Maoists in refugee camps in Nepal are continuing to subject refugees wishing to be resettled by the UNHCR to violence or threats of violence, so much so that security villages have been set up within camps to further protect some refugees on the list to leave.

Just a reminder to new readers we are taking a total of 60,000 Bhutanese refugees over a five year period.  So far we have resettled around 20,000.  It’s inaccurate to call them Bhutanese because they are really ethnic Nepalese who had been living in Bhutan for a long time.  Bhutan expelled them for a couple of reasons, first Bhutan is concerned with ethnic nationalism (surprise, surprise, they want Bhutan for the Bhutanese) and fear that the Nepalis are infiltrated with Maoists who would overthrow the government of Bhutan. Here is just one of many posts on the Maoist issue.   Nepal doesn’t want to repatriate them either.

Anyway, the violence is coming from the Maoists who contend that the more ‘Bhutanese’ refugees that accept a third country resettlement, the less likely they will have enough of an ‘army’ to push for a return to Bhutan.

As for that security village:

This is not a wonder, as you feel when reading this, but the fact is a village has been created within the Bhutanese refugee camp in Nepal. And it is named as security village.

Created on the lap of Armed Police Force (APF) base camp in Beldangi I, the security village turns to be a shelter for all refugees getting threats for opting to go third country as part of the resettlement.

The village contains only few huts where people recommended by the UNHCR, having felt the need to provide security due to increasing threats, are sheltered in. Attached is four-hut separate shelter called transit huts.

There is more, read on.