Comment worth noting: the German approach to society

We received the following comment from “Whatever” in response to a post from January on a German home-schooling family receiving asylum in the U.S.:

The reason why the Germans are so against home schooling is because they have a different philosophy. Germany is a free country, yet is has gun control. That is not a contradiction, as Germans can move about more freely, knowing their fellow citizens are most likely unarmed. It creates a far less hostile environment and the death toll, in percentage, is lower.

As for the mandatory public school system, its main goal is to ensure that each child is granted its right to access unprejudiced knowledge based on facts, proof, and reason. In other words that what is understood under the term “natural sciences”.

There is also religious freedom in Germany. You may raise your child in any religion you choose, as long as the child’s human rights are not offended. German schools are obligated to teach Religion and the child has the right to choose which course it wishes to participate in, may it be Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, or interested in general ethics or philosophies.

The reason that these parents left for the USA is because they wanted to teach their child solely a creationist world view, which is not based on empirical data. The place for this theory would have been the appointed Religion class, in which arguments could be held and views could be shared. But to withhold scientific evidence and conclusions from a child is considered a violation of human rights, at least to the Germans. Because of this, the Germans have decided that in order to ensure the children’s free access to knowledge, private schooling may only be an addition to publish schooling, but it may never replace it.

I hope this helps understand the German approach.

“Whatever” then apologized for typos, and added:

Sorry for so many postings, but what I forgot to mention was the very important right of children to attend religious schools. But these schools are of course also subject of a curriculum, but the religious schools of course integrate their views into their science teachings, which does cause some unrest. It is very mild though, no real disapproval is common among Germans.

I commented:

Thanks for your comment, Whatever. Coincidentally, I just had the European view of society explained to me by my daughter, who was engaged to a Belgian for a while, or rather an American who grew up in Belgium. He found Americans’ “individualism” very abrasive. And he defined individualism as any outright disagreement. He saw all people as connected, almost one organism, so that they should work things out by gently working toward a consensus. This is a very alien concept to Americans, who like to work things out by firmly stating their views and arguing about them.

There is a fine article in the current Touchstone Magazine (http://www.touchstonemag.com/) showing that we reach spiritual maturity by wrestling with spiritual matters as Jacob wrestled with the angel from God. Without wrestling with issues we do not grow. And applying that to political life, I think this is why Europeans are childlike — they refuse to wrestle with anything, and do not grow up. They have expected the United States to be their parent, protecting them from enemies. This is not possible any more, and they will have to grow up or be destroyed. This is the reason for the huge reaction against Geert Wilders in the Netherlands, putting him on trial for hate speech because he identified Europe’s enemy, radical Islam.

And I add:

My comment is a generalization about Europeans, of course, and does not apply to everybody. The Brits are not really Europeans, and have a great tradition of open disagreement. Watch the C-SPAN broadcast of the House of Commons sometime to see it. The French like to argue, and so do Italians. It is more the northern Europeans who are like this, and with the Muslim influx many citizens are not so happy about not being able to speak up, and having to accommodate everybody.

Comment worth noting because we have to laugh sometimes

Yesterday we received this comment to my post on Australia from reader ‘Ciccio.’    For longtime readers, you know that we have constantly criticised Arab governments, especially the Saudi government, for having no Muslim charity toward their co-religionist refugees (Palestinians being prime examples!).  Ciccio has found they do have compassion afterall!

Ciccio:

You keep accusing the Muslim countries of not doing anything for their own, I can now prove you wrong. They do not wish to see their own persecuted and are more than willing to see them repatriated to their homeland when they are no longer welcome in their country of adoption. One would have thought that Australia would have learned about import of non-indigenous from past lessons but it seems politicians never learn.

Here is the link that Ciccio provides to make his/her point.   Saudis do have compassion—for camels!

In January Arab News reported on some Saudis who initiated an Internet campaign calling for the transportation of Australian camels to the Kingdom.

The campaign followed an announcement by the Australian government that it would use helicopters and marksmen to corral and kill 6,000 feral camels in a small northern town.

Days later Australians welcomed the proposal to send their wild camels to Saudi Arabia instead of shooting them.

 Then this:

Glasson however said in an interview with a local news agency that the main objective of the culling program is to reduce the growing numbers in some areas and reduce environmental pollution.

She also pointed to the fact that gases emitted by the camels are equivalent to the polluted smoke coming out of nearly 300,000 cars.

Since we know we are all one big happy interconnected world, this begs the question, won’t the camels be producing just as much gas in Saudi Arabia as they did in Australia?

Sweden to “force” municipalities to accept refugees

And, of course the wealthiest one refuses so far!   This is an update on benevolent Sweden the country we hear touted as the most welcoming in the world. 

From The Local:

The opposition Social Democrats have called for legislation to force all of Sweden’s municipalities to accept their share of refugees. The new integration policy proposal was presented by Luciano Astudillo and Anders Lago in newspaper Dagens Nyheter on Friday.

The party has called for a Lex Vellinge, named after the notorious southern Sweden municipality which has hitherto refused to accept any refugees despite being one of Sweden’s wealthiest areas.

Please take refugees, we will pay you!

Their report, which will be presented on Friday, also proposes a new “responsibility bonus” for the municipalities which accept a disproportionately high number of refugees and asylum seekers. Municipalities not pulling their weight will be given the financial incentive to do so.

As is often the case with short articles such as this one, the comments are much more revealing than the story.  One commenter, “Shayna”, says he/she is happy paying taxes for refugees but not for Swedish alchoholics.   “Uncle” responds:

Shayna you are quite new here and hence did not see tons of stats brought not once. For example, the crime rate was increased 120 times per capita with immigration. Out of every 4 raped women, 3 are raped by a refugee.

There is 1 convicted swede out of 3000 swedes, whereas there is one convicted refugee out of 26 refugees. Every 160th refugee is sitting in prison right now in Sweden, whreas every 4700th swede is in prison. Every working german fully sustains 3 refugees and it goes up.

70 percent of refugees in Malmö is unemployed. Out of 700 Jews living in Malmö 100 were physically attacked for wearing yamaka only in 2008. These Swedish Jews who are swedes in 10-15 generation are forced to move.

How about that for some statistics? Would you like to hear more? I have a bag of them. How about them alcoholics stats? Would you treat us with some amazing discoveries?

One of the top posts each day!  

A sign that multiculturalism (code for Muslim immigrants taking over) is on lots of Swedish minds is that this short post I wrote almost a year ago entitled, ‘Muslim immigration is killing Sweden’ persists in being one of our top posts visited here at RRW almost every day!

For new readers:  For more on Sweden use our search function, we have written often about the “welcoming” country because it serves as a harbinger of what we can expect in America as cities are increasingly saturated with immigrants.

Some welcome refugees: German home schoolers granted asylum

The Home School Legal Defense Association (HSLDA) reports:

In a case with international ramifications, Immigration Judge Lawrence O. Burman granted the political asylum application of a German homeschooling family. The Romeikes are Christians from Bissinggen, Germany, who fled persecution in August 2008 to seek political asylum in the United States. The request was granted January 26 after a hearing was held in Memphis, Tennessee, on January 21.

“We can’t expect every country to follow our constitution,” said Judge Burman. “The world might be a better place if it did. However, the rights being violated here are basic human rights that no country has a right to violate.”

Burman added, “Homeschoolers are a particular social group that the German government is trying to suppress. This family has a well-founded fear of persecution…therefore, they are eligible for asylum…and the court will grant asylum.”

In his ruling, Burman said that the scariest thing about this case was the motivation of the government. He noted it appeared that rather than being concerned about the welfare of the children, the government was trying to stamp out parallel societies—something the judge called “odd” and just plain “silly.” In his order the judge expressed concern that while Germany is a democratic country and is an ally, he noted that this particular policy of persecuting homeschoolers is “repellent to everything we believe as Americans.”

Homeschooling did not always have such a settled status as a human right in the U.S., or such vocal champions in the courts as this judge.  It took a lot of work over many years by homeschooling activists and supporters to get it where it is today. And there are still some who would deny homeschoolers their rights; I won’t recount recent horror stories, but you can check around on the HSLDA website if you’re interested. But in Germany, the report says,

The persecution of homeschoolers in Germany has been intensifying over the past several years. They are regularly fined thousands of dollars, threatened with imprisonment, or have the custody of their children taken away simply because they choose to home educate.

There have been custody cases here in which homeschooled children were taken away, but at least it’s not national policy.  This is a wonderful use of asylum, and I applaud Judge Burman. I hope the decision helps Germany realize the error of its ways.

Hat tip: Mere Comments

Addendum:  Ann points out that we hope Germany will be as rigorous stamping out parallel Muslim societies as they are with Christian homeschoolers!

Haitian refugee news roundup

I am deluged with news about Haitian refugees, so the best I can do today is list a bunch of stories that you should see.  These have been piling up in my in-box, thanks to readers for sending them.

Haitians begin arriving in Tampa:

A planeload of Haitians has just landed at Tampa International Airport.

The C-130 military aircraft landed about 9:15 p.m. It is carrying 34 people, half of them injured and needing medical attention.

Fifteen of the injured are Haitians; two are members of the U.S. military. Most of the remaining passengers are family members.

Airport, medical and relief agency officials have been on alert for days for the possibility Hatians needing help would begin arriving in the Bay area. Most of the injured have gone to South Florida, but those medical facilities are beginning to reach capacity.

I guess the big question the folks in Tampa are asking is, will they go back to Haiti after their medical treatment.

A couple of readers sent me this Washington Post story about how Haitian refugees will be coming to the US at some point.  I don’t know what it says because the darned article has frozen my computer 3 times when I tried to read it!  I think its their pop-up ad.  Maybe you will have better luck.  I’ve been given these few lines from the story:

Among Haitians and their U.S. relatives, Limon [that would be Lavinia, whoop de do, Limon of the US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants] predicted, pressure on U.S. immigration policy will escalate in the coming weeks and months. “You need a boat, a captain, money. Nobody has that,” she said. “But in two weeks, four weeks, six weeks, they will.”

A Pennsylvania town offers an empty school to house refugees from Haiti thinking it will bring an economic boom to their county. Good luck with that idea.

Aid agencies blasted.  This is a story that was all over the place a few days ago.  The link I’ve given you is just one of many on the topic.

A leading British medical journal [Lancet] says many international aid groups in Haiti are more concerned with self-promotion than helping earthquake survivors.

Here is a blog post from before the earthquake that says aid workers sexually abuse Haitians.

Gallup reports results similar to Rasmussen. Most Americans don’t want more Haitian refugees.

PRINCETON, N.J., Jan. 26 (UPI) — Most Americans oppose allowing more Haitian refugees into the United States in the wake of the devastating Jan. 12 earthquake, a Gallup poll indicates.

In a survey released Tuesday, Gallup said the immigration issue produces a sharp political divide, with 57 percent of Democrats in favor of allowing more immigrants, while 57 percent of independents and 67 percent of Republicans are opposed.

More later.