But, get this, Pew Research says that the number isn’t growing due to conversions to Islam because for every convert to the ‘religion’ an equal number are leaving Islam!
The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) disagrees with Pew as you will see below.
First Pew admitsthey have no reliable census data:
Recent political debates over Muslim immigration and related issues have prompted many people to ask how many Muslims actually live in the United States. But coming up with an answer is not easy, in part because the U.S. Census Bureau does not ask questions about religion, meaning there is no official government count of the U.S. Muslim population.
Still, based on our own survey and demographic research, as well as outside sources, Pew Research Center estimates that there were about 3.45 million Muslims of all ages living in the U.S. in 2017, and that Muslims made up about 1.1% of the total U.S. population.
Muslims in the U.S. are not as numerous as the number of Americans who identify as Jewish by religion, according to our estimate. At the same time, our projections suggest that the U.S. Muslim population will grow much faster than the country’s Jewish population. By 2040, Muslims will replace Jews as the nation’s second-largest religious group after Christians. And by 2050, the U.S. Muslim population is projected to reach 8.1 million, or 2.1% of the nation’s total population — nearly twice the share of today.
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…. the Muslim population has continued to grow at a rate of roughly 100,000 per year, driven both by higher fertility rates among Muslim Americans as well as the continued migration of Muslims to the U.S.
Pew says that the Muslim population won’t reach 8.1 million until 2050, but CAIR says we are there already. And, they are working on their own count!
Muslim advocacy groups such as the Council on American Islamic Relations routinely cite a span of 6 million to 8 million people in describing the size of Islam in America.
That would be between 2 percent and 3 percent of the U.S. population and make Muslims greater in number than Mormons or Jews.
That claim stands in sharp contrast to the results of a survey last year by the Pew Research Center, which found the population was 2.35 million, or 0.6 percent of the U.S. population, based on phone surveys. [Unclear what is meant by “last year” since it was in 2007 that Pew ‘guessed’ it was 2.35.—ed]
Notice that at both Pew Research and at CAIR they are interested in pinpointing when the Muslim population will surpass Jewish (and other) religious groups.
Time for a baby race! Nothing drives a Leftwinger crazier than my next admonition: Some of you better step up your game and have more babies!
I think Pew breaks down Muslim population numbers by state, go to the story, here, and see if there are links for other data.
For new readers: We often give readers an opportunity to post guest opinions here at RRW. This is one from a longtime Minnesota resident, Robert Carrillo, who attended the event last Saturday at the St. Cloud Public Library where CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) attempted to equate the internment of Japanese in the US (after the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor) with what could happen to Somalis in the age of Trump.
The event backfired when many educated and fearless audience members pushed back (see full report here at WND).
I’m all in favor of holding debates with CAIR anywhere and everywhere CAIR is willing to show up—let’s educate more Americans!
From Robert Carrillo who was in the audience on Saturday, November 18th (edited from the original for space, so if it doesn’t flow so well at times, blame me!):
The Japanese American group folks were actually very interesting. Their plight during the war years (WWII) was difficult indeed. So was the same fate for German Americans and Italian Americans located on the East coast at that time also, and for the very same reasons. Please remember, that we were attacked at Pearl Harbor.
There was no instant communication. No internet. Only teletype, telephones, Western Union telegrams, and newspapers; all lagging behind events for days and weeks, or even longer. People were scared to death, and many rational precautions were taken to insure the safety (against potential domestic sabotage) of the American homeland, including “resettlement” of people of Japanese descent, German descent, and Italian descent… Sad, and difficult to be certain, but a historical fact.
As an aside it was a Democrat President, Franklin D. Roosevelt, who signed that war time emergency order. I lived in Japan for a couple of years on a military base as a kid. I get it!
However, they are being used, and are being played. The conflating of these events (75 years ago), and the loaded race baiting/ religious baiting language used by Mr. Hussein, to connect the dots—which do not connect at all, was obvious, and disconcerting.
Outrageous fear-mongering poster wouldn’t you say!
The “Could This Happen Again?” program format, created by Jaylani Hussein (MN CAIR Director, comparing this 1940’s historical event to a modern-day possibility involving the Somali (Muslim) community, was, at best tacky and completely dishonest, and at its worst, a disgusting form of hate mongering manipulation by this man.
According to Hussein, all the interrelated (legitimate), and horrifying news stories, just in the past two years alone, involving Somali (Muslims), and legitimate and horrifying NEWS STORIES, reported here in the land of “Minnesota Nice” are lies, and false propaganda, intended to marginalize, demonize, and to intimidate the Somali “community” (the victims). Truly?
And, according to his highness of MN CAIR, they are the VICTIMS, and WE are simply not taking the time necessary enough to understand THEM. The ever-increasing crime and violence, and barbaric behavior on the part of their “community” membership is all fiction, and “We” will not be silenced nor intimidated by those attempting to spread such lies about us” says Mr. Hussein.
This man is what is called a “grifter”, and in my view, an extremely dangerous con man, completely unwilling to accept any responsibility whatsoever for the terrible actions of far too many within the ranks of his own “community”, or for his culpability in this tragic situation. In fact, he repeatedly denies that these real-life news stories (there are way too many of them now) are true, sadly.
Furthermore, he also refuses to accept the reality that in this world, and in any civilized society, “attitudes reflect leadership”, and that his lack of leadership only serves to foment additional violence, and additional blow-back from Minnesotans as a result.
In short, he is a completely irresponsible “slick talking”, delusional adult-child, and again, unwilling to accept the existence of his disgraceful part in this quickly unfolding tragedy here in Minnesota. He does neither he, nor his “community” of Somali’s in Minnesota, or Minnesotans in general, any good whatsoever, by behaving in this deplorable and irresponsible fashion. In fact, he accomplishes just the opposite objective, in my view, and I believe that to be intentional.
In short, and although I believe there are some exceptions within the community, I do not believe that they are here to get along as good neighbors at all (to assimilate). I believe, as has proved to be true in other parts of the world, especially Europe and the UK, and around the United States and Canada as well, that they are here to overwhelm the indigenous population, and to sow the seeds necessary to grow their “caliphate”. There are literally centuries of similar historical evidence to support this statement. In short, and for the most part, they simply do not play well with others.
One might also ask a logical and practical economic question here on the home front.
Why, given that in St Cloud, Minnesota and the surrounding area, with very limited industry, and very limited employment and business opportunity, would he (Hussein) not support a “moratorium” at this point (St Cloud MN, Councilman Jeff Johnson’s proposal), which would naturally limit (“time out”) the number of additional immigrants being transplanted into St Cloud, MN, so as not to bring in more people to compete for the very same jobs and limited opportunities his “community” are currently enjoying. Conclusion? He is obviously up to something else here.
One woman (nice lady I suppose) – “Bless her heart”, as one person I know would say – was actually willing to outline the “cultural reasons” why all Muslims (she) must pray 5 times a day. It is “required” says she…including in our taxpayer funded public schools. Well, that trumps (pardon the word) OUR US Supreme Court decision on that score in particular relative to “prayer in public schools”, I suppose, according to her. Well, there you have it! Done deal! We, (the “community”) demand it, and therefore, we are entitled to it!
Six of the eight the FBI is looking for in Minnesota. “Should be considered armed and dangerous.” https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/providing-material-support-1
Then there is the refusal on the part of Somali-owned food service and restaurant businesses in St Cloud, MN, now refusing to allow lawful and required Health Department inspections of their establishments – AND, APPARENTLY, GETTING AWAY WITH IT! Those businesses should have been shut down yesterday.
As an aside, and since the FBI Minneapolis is presently looking for “8 Armed and Dangerous Men” (Somali) fellas as we speak, perhaps checking under the floor boards of those restaurants might be a clever, and rational idea at the moment. By the way, where did these young men get their guns and ammunition? There is the recently formed “Somali American [ Men’s ] Gun Club” in St Cloud now.
One fella, afterwards in the lobby of the St Cloud Public Library (also very wordy and slick – and oh so smooth—Jaylani Hussein’s right-hand man), told me, with considerable pride, that his father had 6 wives, and thus he had 22 siblings. OMG… Paleeeeeze.. …Just say NO! How many welfare checks does that add up to do you suppose?
Because I was not called on during the Q & A portion of the program (my arm is still sore from waving it), intentionally, to offer any commentary, and to ask some needed questions, I did have a chance to visit with a few concerned citizens afterwards.
I handed out more than a few actual and very recent news articles relative to very serious incidents, which have happened in Minnesota, which are much more than alarming. Not to my surprise, there were far too many people there, who had not even been made aware of these news stories at all. (Minnesota mainstream media is a disgrace – AND AFRAID in my opinion – as is true of many connected to Minnesota Law Enforcement and governance now).
This included the two incidents at the Mall of America on a recent Sunday (November 12, 2017) afternoon and evening. First was the 5th degree sexual assault (ride operator arrested and charged) of a woman by an amusement park ride operator, and then, the stabbing of two shoppers in Macy’s, both acts committed by member(s) of the Minneapolis Somali “community” (not a good track record here people).
Jaylani Hussein, the executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-MN), is, I concluded, an arrogant huckster and a master con man, and he is smooth.
He was caught lying through his teeth several times, and we have him on tape. Can you say, no denunciation or condemnation of The Muslim Brotherhood, or Hamas, connected to CAIR?
His response more than once during the Q&A portion of his presentation was: “He will not be intimidated or silenced by such website-generated questions”, says he! “And, we carry a big stick” says he.
These people, and their home-grown SURROGATES (Not the Japanese American organization folks being played for fools here), are so clearly, Kool-Aide drinking – moneymaking – and race baiting pimps, and they too are very dangerous. Joseph Stalin referenced such people as “useful idiots”.
Relating to Mr. Jaylani’s condescending behavior and treatment of many of the women audience members in particular (a cultural problem I believe); demonstrating such disrespect and obvious disdain in his tone and manner throughout, while somehow believing that his deceptive delivery style had gone on unnoticed, I can almost hear Michael Corleone (Godfather Film) saying to his brother-in-law, Carlo, relating to his brother, Sonny’s (Santino) assassination…”Ahhh, that little farce you played with my sister: Did you think you could fool a Corleone?”
How about another panel discussion Mr. Hussein – face to face – with additional experts on the stage, who do understand the serious “Public Safety” and “Public Health” issues connected to this “Trojan Horse” problem WE ALL FACE, regardless of political affiliation, or personal philosophy?This, Mr. Hussein, is my standing invitation to do so, publicly, and with local and national news cameras and microphones rolling.
To: MN CAIR’s, Mr. Jaylani Hussein: Let’s have that public conversation (public panel discussion), and public debate, very soon. As US Supreme Court Justice Brandeis once said: “Sunlight is the best disinfectant”, my friend.
While we wait for Jaylani’s answer, please keep thinking happy “Minnesota Nice” thoughts … Please pass the brats – the beer – and the hot-dish…wouldja? …OK then, “Enjoy the weather!”
Stay tuned….
We are staying tuned as well—this should be good!
Be sure Lutheran Social Services of MN and a representative of the mayor/council of St. Cloud are on the panel with CAIR. And, presumably the St. Cloud Public Library will make a room available for the educational event.
We told you on Saturday that in order to hammer home the idea that Muslims are victims in the age of Trump, CAIR Minnesota held a public meeting at the St. Cloud library where they presented a panel of Japanese Americans and asked—could this happen here?
Of course the ‘this’ is the incarceration of tens of thousands of Muslims as the Roosevelt Administration did to the Japanese in WWII.
CAIR’s fearmonger panel in St. Cloud on Saturday. Photo: World Net Daily
Their propaganda stunt backfired on CAIR when their leader in Minnesota, Jaylani Hussein, refused to answer a straightforward question about CAIR, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
He went one step further in demonstrating that instead of being helpless victims, they are actually the bullies when he said CAIR carried a big stick—a statement that put no one at ease.
The Minnesota leader of the Council on American-Islamic Relations was asked during a community meeting Saturday if he would renounce the terrorist organization Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
He refused.
The event at the St. Cloud Public Library was part of CAIR’s ongoing “anti-Islamophobia” campaign that it launched in the wake of the election one year ago of President Donald Trump.
About 30 people attended the event Saturday, and they were told Muslims are on the verge of being rounded up and placed in internment camps, just like the Japanese were in 1942 under an executive order signed by President Franklin Roosevelt.
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Jaylani Hussein then presented the Somali refugee community in Minnesota as victims of the latest American racism, taking the form of anti-Muslim bigotry equal to that leveled against the Chinese and Japanese leading up to World War II.
One of the presenters suggested it might take only one trigger moment and the same could happen to Muslims. However….
Local resident Elizabeth Baklaich reminded the professor that America “already had that trigger moment.”
“That trigger moment was 9/11. There were 3,000 people who died,” she said. “… [T]hat was a direct attack that was followed up by war, and if we were going to make this same maneuver against Muslims, it would have happened. … I just wanted to bring that up because I think that’s a fundamental flaw in your thesis,” Baklaich said.
To Hussein, she directed another question.
“I heard you talk about fear Jaylani, and there’s one thing you could do very easily that would help alleviate a tremendous amount of fear in this community,” Baklaich said.
She reminded him of the FBI evidence presented in the Holy Land Foundation terror-financing trial of 2007 that showed CAIR is a front group for Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
“If you want to be our friend, and you want to be part of the community, and want us to accept you more, and work with you and be less fearful of what’s coming in, and what’s going on, are you willing to condemn both Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood?” she asked.
Not only did he not condemn Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood, in a rambling and increasingly defensive answer he said that CAIR carried a big stick!
So much for ratcheting down the fear level!
You need to go hereand see exactly what he said! And, don’t miss CAIR’s flyer on the event. Were they planning to take this show on the road?
Suffice it to say, the propaganda stunt to paint the Muslim community in St. Cloud as the victims failed miserably.
Why? Because the general public’s level of knowledge about the Islamists’ agenda in America has increased greatly, and because fearless Americans, like those in St. Cloud on Saturday, are speaking up!
And, of course, as I look around this morning I see that CAIR’s arrival on the scene draws the national media! A local Fox affiliateis reporting on the controversy surrounding one city councilman’s proposed moratorium on refugee resettlement and even the Washington Postis now reporting. I expect to see the spinners and liars from the New York Times arriving soon! LOL! the new ambulance chasing—CAIR chasing!
It looks like the showdown will be Monday, October 23rd when Councilman Jeff Johnson will propose that the mayor and council ask the federal government and its agent in Minnesota—Lutheran Social Services of MN—to give them a break until more is known about the economic impact of resettlement on the city and until there can be some assurances that the process going forward is transparent. Federal law does give a role to local governments to weigh in with their suggestions.
If this is the first time you are learning about the latest uprising in St. Cloud, see my posts here, hereand here recently.
The moral of this story is if you can draw out CAIR (Council on American Islamic Relations) you can get some national attention for your efforts!
As I said inmy previous post, CAIR must fight to keep Muslim refugees coming in to the US in order to continue to build their political power base. It is that simple!
Rather than go back over the resolution and what it could possibly do (or what might happen on Monday night at city hall), I think my best contribution to this story is to supply readers with background on how a small Minnesota city became ground zero for a battle, the results of which, will in fact help determine the future of literally every town and city in America in the decades ahead.
It’s the Lutherans in the case of St. Cloud.
We know that Somali refugees have been placed in Minnesota by the US State Department since the late 1980’s. By the early 1990’s the flood gates were opening as three major federal contractors: Catholic Charities, Lutheran Social Services of MN (whose ‘mothership’ is Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service where, by the way, rumor has it that some scandal is brewing), and World Relief saw Minnesota’s generous welfare as a real plus for the destitute Somalis. See my 2011 post here.
Not only was the generous welfare a draw, but big companies needed cheap labor (a window company in Owatona for example, or meat packing plants all over the state, including in St. Cloud!).
LSS as employment agency?
CEO Harpstead pulls down a salary and benefits package of over $300,000 annually to head the $91 million a year operation
Initially there was no direct resettlement of refugees in St. Cloud, that didn’t come until 2011. But, the so-called secondary migrants were moving to the city helped by an EMPLOYMENT OFFICE run by none other than Lutheran Social Services of MN. WTH!
Why was a non-profit ‘religious’ charity running an employment office to benefit large corporations? Was someone paying them to find refugee laborers for St. Cloud area businesses? Who? Taxpayers?
Hereis an August 2010 story from Minnesota Public Radio announcing that in the coming year LSS of MN would be bringing 300 refugees directly to St. Cloud over the next 3 years.
But, we learn that since 2002 (right after 9/11), LSS was running an “employment office” there:
Kim Dettmer, Director of Refugee Services at Lutheran Social Services, said no one has an exact figure for the total number of refugees living in the St. Cloud area. Many community and nonprofit leaders estimate that the African population in St. Cloud is between 8,000 and 10,000–this figure includes people who came to the United States as refugees and who have since become naturalized citizen and no longer have refugee status. Lutheran Social Services learned that St. Cloud had a large and growing Somali population, so it opened an employment office in St. Cloud in 2002 to provide extra support.
One of those companies looking for cheap (Lutheran-supplied) labor was apparently Gold n’ Plump a St. Cloud-based chicken processing plant which found out that maybe cheap Somali Muslim labor isn’t cheap after all. It had to pay out an undisclosed cash settlement to Somali workers in a legal dispute discussed herein the Star Tribune.
In a landmark settlement that could change the way Muslims are treated in the workplace, St. Cloud-based Gold’n Plump Inc. has agreed to allow Somali workers short prayer breaks and the right to refuse handling pork at its poultry processing facilities.
The federally mediated agreement is among the first in the nation that requires employers to accommodate the Islamic prayer schedule and the belief, held by many strict Muslims, that the Qur’an prohibits the touching and eating of pork products.
Community organizers form Red-Green axis:
One of those involved in the settlement was community activist Mahmoud Mohamed. I told you about him and his ‘ethnic community based organization’ here in early 2010and here again in December of that year where he claims to be part of the “we” who brought the first refugees directly from camps to St. Cloud. I don’t know if he is still active, or if SASSO is still calling shots in St. Cloud. And I don’t know if Mohamed is still working with the hard Left community organizer Luke Tripp. Someone needs to do a little research.
The controversy surrounding the resolution vote on Monday (and hopefully there will be a vote so that citizens there can see exactly how each council person votes) did not happen in a vacuum or come out of the blue. In addition to those events I just mentioned, a lot has gone down in St. Cloud over the years, including but not limited to:
A controversy about Somalis harassing an assistance dog, here. (my first introduction to St. Cloud)
Controversies in the high school, one of many posts here.
A huge zoning battle over the construction of a mosque in the middle of a neighborhood, here.
The knife attack by a Somali at the local mall, here.
Muslim arrested for mosque vandalism blamed on citizens (Islamophobes!) originally, here.
Local paper did not like me visiting St. Cloud, here.
Go herefor many more stories in my archive about St. Cloud.
Update!How could I forget this! MN Governor Dayton said in St. Cloud 2015: anyone who doesn’t like immigrants can get out of Minnesota, here.
Bottomline, Lutheran Social Services of MN is responsible for the exploding Somali population in St. Cloud and the chaos and controversy that has followed.
Not in my name!
What you can do: If you are of the Lutheran denomination, you need to let your ministers know exactly how you feel about changing America by changing the people in the name of your faith group (and for Caesar’s money)!
I’ve been telling you about the march that was planned for yesterday, and held yesterday, against the Trump Administration most recently here.
I just did a quick check and found this amateur videoof the event in DC. The march is clearly being led by the Council on American Islamic Relations as their banner went first while a woman chanted (to the sounds of one of those drums the Commies use in marches):
“No hate, no fear, refugees are welcome here”
I’m sure there are better quality photos, but here (below) is a quick screen shot from the video.
By Washington standards (I’ve been to many rallies there including to protest against the international Communists) and this was not much of a showing.
To continue acquiring political power, CAIR desperately needs a steady supply of New Americans—Muslim refugees—entering the US.
CAIR/Muslim Brotherhood surely has a right to march against the Trump Administration, but what is so shocking to me is that the Refugee Council USAendorsed the march.
The nine major federal contractors make up the core organizations of that lobbying arm of the refugee industry. Your tax dollars keep all nine organizations afloat, yet here they are marching with CAIR!
