Comment worth noting: Muslims lie to get into Australia

Gosh, I got up this morning to find many interesting comments from around the world, so it was hard to decide which one I wanted to post as a ‘comment worth noting.’  Below is Anne from Australia, but so as not to leave anyone out, you might want to see Nicholas here, Abdi and Dave here, or Joyce here.

One thing that struck me about this comment from Australia is that it makes me wonder if there are no avenues to disseminate Anne’s message in Australia.  Do any of our regular Australian readers know if you have the equivalent of Refugee Resettlement Watch in your country?

Anne (hopefully not her real name) posted a comment to our most recent post about asylum seekers trying to get to Australia in the wake of changes in asylum policy which makes it easier to get  into Australia.

It was widely known in the Afghan community (Adelaide) in the last huge wave of boat arrivals that the Pakistani Afghans were granted permanent visas well before the true Afghan refugees received theirs. The proportion of true Afghan refugees was only about 10%. They spoke of Immigration actually telling them it is sometimes better if they don’t tell the truth. Those who did tended to be left until the last. This was the cause of many fights and arguments at the time. It is always harder to prove your case than to pay someone in Pakistan to give you false papers.

I have met many who claimed to be a 13-17 years old and in fact were either in their mid twenties or thirties. They were visibly older than they claimed but Immigration easily provided them with visas. Many of the so called orphan boys were actually married men with large families – 6 in Perth in one instance. My former partner was an Afghan refugee. I gave up working with refugees before the birth of our son. Now began the really scary time. I was to learn much about what was really going on but always under threat of losing my child if I spoke out the truth to authorities even now I am under a threat of retribution should I approach authorities.

I believe it is essential that the government is really careful when it determines who is to stay here or not. Some are genuine and some are not. Their concept of truth is so different to ours. Justice under our law and revenge under theirs. Woman – how sadly they are treated. The men that come here must be made to learn values of our society and accept the consequences when they break our laws rather than see it as a permission to take revenge on the victim.

To Abdi, this is what I mean by Muslims not assimilating.  It has nothing to do with paying taxes and working hard, but has everything to do with the advancement the Judeo-Christian ethic has given women in the West.  Islam is not there yet and likely never will be if you and others like you are not working to ‘assimilate’ in Australia or the US.

Do Somali refugees in the US want to assimilate?

Here is a story from Minnesota Public Radio (MPR) that I said I would mention days ago, but never got to (like so many other prospective posts I have in my queue!).  MPR reports on a debate between two Somali leaders in Minnesota.

An invigorating discussion on Somalis in Minnesota had a particularly interesting exchange on an assertion that is difficult to prove: Somalis aren’t interested in participating in the American culture, even as they become American citizens.

“There are many Somalis who are eager to have American papers because it facilitates American life,” Ahmed Samatar, the dean of the Institute for Global Citizenship at Macalester College in St. Paul said. “But they either have no interest or have not made the initiative to understand the deep values of American society — the value of democratic politics, the value of individual liberty, the value of equality, the value of loyalty to one’s own society. Those come through long, deep educational process (and) a generational movement.”

Ahmed Samatar cites the silence on the Somali missing youths case as evidence of where Somalis loyalties lie.   Note this post  (story also linked by MPR below) I wrote a couple of days ago where the women were silent until summoned to a grand jury. 

Ahmed Samatar said the fact nobody has come forward with information about the missing Somali young men of Minneapolis is troubling (see timeline). “If you are a citizen of a country in the deepest sense I am talking about, then you will tell the truth. You cannot just say ‘I am minding my own business and yet I want to live here in the Twin Cities and the state of Minnesota,’ and not participate in trying to protect society from the things that damage its own sense of self and community.”

Other Somali leaders disagree and want proof of the assertion:

Hussein Samatar, the founder and executive director of the African Development Center in Minneapolis, disagreed.

“You betcha,” he said when MPR’s Gary Eichten asked if most Somalis here want to become U.S. citizens. “If you really believe what you just said about the Somalis not being deep enough into American values, I would ask you: Have you done studies that can show the numbers in terms of people not becoming deep? If you have them, otherwise anecdotally it’s not enough.”

No “melting” for us:

I’ve been looking for an opportunity to mention this and now seems a good time.  I read the very fawning and pro-Somali refugee book “The Somali Diaspora, A Journey Away” by Roble and Rutledge recently and found this an interesting admission. 

Americans seem to expect Somalis to assimilate….  Most Americns now think that they should be able to draw the road map of assimilation, but many Somalis have decided that they want to draw the map for themselves. Actually, most Somalis avoid the word assimilation.  Abdirashid Warsame explained his difficulty with the concept by saying, “America may be a melting pot, but I don’t want to melt.” Somalis seem to prefer the concept of participation, the notion that they can participate in U.S. culture without letting America define the meaning of their lives.

Sounds pretty selfish to me.  We will take all America will give us—food, shelter, health care, safety, freedom, etc.—but don’t expect us to learn to be Americans.  We refuse.

Iraq’s VP wants Christians to stay

Iraqi Christians apparently are still being threatened and killed by Muslim extremists in Iraq causing them to continue to seek refuge in surrounding countries according to this article in The Christian Post.

The vice president of Iraq, Adel Abdul Mahdi, urged the country’s Christian population to resist fleeing Iraq and called on the international community to help protect the dwindling minority group from extremists.

Since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003, some 250,000 to 500,000 Christians have left the country. Christians, although making up only three percent of Iraq’s population, account for nearly half of the refugees leaving Iraq, according to the U.N. High Commission for Refugees.

“The position of Iraqi Christians is vulnerable and Iraq must not be left alone to face this. It’s a collective task,” said Abdul Mahdi, a Shiite Muslim, at a conference hosted by the French Institute of International Relations in Paris on Wednesday, according to Agence France-Presse.

“Christians are an integral part of Iraq,” he said. “We need to help Iraq and help Christians remain in Iraq.”

Iraq’s Christian population has mostly fled to neighboring countries such as Syria and Jordan, but has also been granted refuge in Western countries including France, Germany, and the United States.

Members of the tiny Christian population are forced to leave their homeland because of daily physical threats to their life. More than 200 Christians [Edit: as Judy pointed out here the numbers seem to be unreliable]  have been killed, dozens of churches bombed, and countless believers have been kidnapped for ransom money since 2003.

And, a reminder, the Christians were living in what is now Iraq long before the Muslim’s arrived.

Iraq is home to one of the oldest Christian communities in the world. Many religious freedom groups have warned that if nothing is done soon the Christian population in Iraq will likely disappear.

More Muslim asylum seekers caught attempting to reach Australia

Looks like Australia’s more lenient policy toward asylum has opened a floodgate of Afghan and Iraqi refugees attempting to reach ‘welcoming’ Australia.  This group was caught in Indonesia.  From the Herald Sun:

ANOTHER 68 Afghan asylum seekers poised to head to Australia have been arrested by Indonesian authorities and are being questioned tonight.

Read the whole story and learn more about Australia’s recent refugee problems in our category on the subject, here.

Update:  Just came across another story of an Iraqi family who may be trying to reach Australia.   See how it’s done, here.

Minneapolis resident speaks up about pro-Somali press bias

I wish I had more time to properly analyze this Opinion piece by a resident of the Minneapolis area, Matt Drew.  Unfortunately, I am so frustrated this morning by not having enough time to post and respond to comments.   I have at least a half dozen posts that need to be written.    This issue, refugee resettlement, is growing so large that it would take a couple of full time people to stay on top of it.

Here are excerpts from Mr Drew’s letter to the Star Tribune.  He makes some excellent points that, by the way, help explain one aspect of the Tea Party movement.

Strictly adhering to the clichéd, politically correct paradigm of reporting news involving minorities or immigrants by almost always, no matter the circumstances, portraying them as victims, an April 9 front-page Star Tribune story explored the growing “mistrust” and “anxiety” within Minnesota’s Somali community.

[….] 

But the FBI-induced anxiety felt by Somalis is likely nothing compared with the Somali-induced anxiety felt by Minnesota’s non-Somali majority, those who don’t get interviewed by sympathetic Star Tribune reporters because their answers might not fit the liberal template, but who have legitimate concerns that Minnesota has been negatively impacted by a Somali community that, often times, seems more focused on grievance than gratitude, on separation than assimilation.

[….] 

For is it not fair, if not obligatory, for Minnesotans to ask questions and have concerns when, in a 15-year span, upwards of 100,000 Third World Somalis have been simply dropped on our doorstep, by the stork of a U.S. State Department that considered Minnesota, and, more importantly, its generous social services, a good fit for the refugees, especially when taxpayers are footing the bill?

[….] 

Without question, Minnesota has been changed by the influx of Somali immigrants, and what needs to be asked is if that change is for the better. Is Minneapolis better off today than it was 15 years ago? Because the well-documented clash of cultures, the strain on our health care system, the costs of housing, feeding and educating Somalis, all told, lead to this conclusion: No.

Read the whole letter and consider whether diversity has strengthened this community.